PvP Madness

Waiting for our victims

We have been doing lots of raiding, and also have to mention our arena addicted members that take breaks to fill a spot for us. Overall PvP has been low in our schedule and I think we are almost ripe for another attempt at getting the people that are missing the War Bear their chance.

However this week we revisited WG. Since the patch that attempted to balance the numbers things are getting a lot better. Things are not completely fixed, but it is at least feasible for the alliance in our server to win even during peek playing hours.

WG is a fun way to farm honor which translates into gems if you are all decked out for PvP. What makes it even funner is to have several people in your vent doing some shared objectives.

The more I do PvP, the more I realize that one on one skill is almost overridden by class mismatches, but a solid group can even things out even against awesome PvPers and even Pallies.

Give it a try, get a group of 10 people and go into WG and just hang out at sunken ring while defending. It can really tip the scale over to the other side.

Have fun PvPing!

Ulduar Progress

Continued progress in Ulduar

The guild is making good progress in Ulduar now, partly due to easier access to better gear, but mostly because everyone is learning the fights. We were able to one shot three bosses Flame, Razorscale and XT-002. We also tried and defeated after only one wipe Kologarn.

We have reached a pretty good rithm for raiding with doing some easy content like old school raids or Naxx with 10 man ToC or Ulduar in between. We also continue to have plenty of alts with our hunters and mages all having new tanks either at 80 or in the works, it seems that I might have to work on my priest or finally roll a druid.

Speaking of my priest, the 50s went pretty quick, but the 60s seem to be dragging. I need to spend a weekend working on him and questing a bit. I have been slowly but surely just doing battleground and having fun healing and sometimes even topping the charts. It is still a big crap shoot when you BG.

As for Logtar’s gear, I just got a new pair of bracers that will help out a bit. Reading about the content that will come out for the patch 3.3 it seems that I will have to regem for stamina. The patch is getting closer so getting into our 10 man ToC might have to become a priority for me so I can replace a couple of pieces. The patch should help out with also upgrading the emblems to the same level so the gear can rain from the heavens again. I am sitting on 200 emblems right now that should probably go to building a better DPS spec, but I hardly ever really need to or want to DPS.

Everyone that has asked to join the guild lately, its not you, its me :)

We are at a good place right now and like the current group we have. We will add players to the guild, but they need to be have someone sponsor them in. We are slowly but surely talking about the next expansion and we want to have a strong core group to attack that content. Who knows, we might get our wish and have a pretty solid 10 man to start raiding content very early into the next iteration.

After Party

I was talking with iJustLost the other day about the interviews I am conducting to grow the team we are building at the new job and he compared it to how we run the guild. Running a guild is a lot like running a business. I cannot thank enough the people that help make the Boondock Saints what they have become.

We had our guild meeting and promoted a lot of people. Pala and Poison are now are newest officers. It has been a real pleasure to get e-mails from people recommending others for promotion and highlighting the hard work everyone has put into crafting and getting everyone geared. I think I am the only one that is still slacking by only having one 80. Most people are already on their second or third 80 and a lot have two dungeon geared toons that they can switch on to run things.

We had wanted to take a couple of Horde bosses down for alts and people that have not completed it, but ran into a group that was questing on the path to Orgrimar. Sure enough when we showed up there were Horde already waiting. We quickly got out of there and split up on groups to run the daily heroic. We will have to get the bosses down some other time when there are no people sounding the alarm bells, or just talk to the other guild and show up with more people.

It was a nice guild meeting, we had to upgrade our vent to a 35 person because we ran out of slots. This week we were able to run 25 mans and we are going to start our new raid schedule this week. We are doing a lot better than I could have ever imagined and it is all thanks to the people that are part of our guild. It is nice to have people around that understand that being part of a guild is a privilege! Its awesome to farm together and have flasks, fish feasts, gems, enchants and now even drums as something the guild can provide because everyone pitches in!

A little summary of the points covered last night.

* Be polite and respectful. No putting down of people for race, religion, political affiliation, dps, lack of move out of the fire skill.
* Use our vent channels. We have created more and just talk to one of the officers for passwords or to create additional channels.
* Talk to your officers about scheduling events. We have Halloween coming up as well as world PvP.
* Use your user note to let us know if you are making a push to level your profession. We will help you get it to 450.
* We now have 2 capped enchanters with all the recepies and Moondust very close to getting the all for JC. Get all your gear enchanted and gemmed prior to raids.

Congratulations to everyone on the promotions! (Fotos in the Facebook Group and later on the website!)

TBC Raids – The Battle for Mount Hyjal

The Battle for Mount Hyjal (achievement)

Last night I came in at the tail end of this achievement run put together by Mr Froto and Sal. For a 70 level instance with a group of about 20 level 80s it was still tricky.

The last fight has your standard get out of the fire goodness, but it also has a launch into the air part to it. You are given an item that allows you to slow fall but it is only effective right before you are about to hit the ground. Hit it to early and you are still a pancake. It took us an extra try, but after we all tried the whole jumping and hitting the special item it was a lot simpler.

Almost everyone in the guild got the The Battle for Mount Hyjal achievement, but I am sure that we will have to have an alt run soon. We will also need to do a For The Alliance clean up so all alts have their bear. I think almost everyone’s main now has dragons from timed CoS, now we need to start getting everyone’s alts the same.

We got Froto Yes We Do

One of the coolest cats on our server just joined the BoondockSaints. It came at just the perfect time also because we needed to push for a couple of new raid leaders and he is probably one that we can learn from the most.

Froto is a pro at pugging stuff, and when you pug stuff you learn a lot. You learn to deal with personalities and class mixes that probably are not adequate but you make it work.

He had been chilling in a small guild with some of his friend and now he and his lady are running with us in a official way. Froto had been filling up our ranks when we needed DPS or heals.

Froto and Mime are both great hunters and that output awesome DPS and they will help our progression. In the second night they were on they took a group to EoE which I have never even set foot into!

I have been running H ToC with some of my RL friends that are now 80 and having a blast. I am hoping this week we get 5 or 6 raids going since we now have more people that can lead. I am excited that I am not running any of the raids and I can simply be a participant.

We are also starting our PvP teams and I will sneak in as an alternate and maybe learn something. I will be purchasing the PvP set with all the conquest badges that I don’t have use for anymore and see if I can actually do any good as an arms warrior.


Last year I was in Colombia when the Brewfest was going on, so I did not know any of the quest or what getting the Brewmaster achievement entailed. I was on early in the morning the other day and got a jump on all the fun right after Pirate’s day. The quests are pretty straight forward and require only enough patience to actually read the instructions. I am only a couple achievements away from getting everything related to this holiday which seems easier than any of the other ones.

Razorscale One Shoted on the first try!

Our Ulduar group is progressing nicely with getting 5 bosses down on their first try, almost all of them being one shots. We have grown to a pretty healthy size and now have enough tanks to have 4 heroic farming groups going in a good night. We are still trying to balance raiding with casualness but I think we have found a happy medium.

Bluearcher has a KODO now, and we are all pretty jealous. That has to be one of the coolest mounts an alliance can have!


“The challenge of leadership is to be strong, but not rude; be kind, but not weak; be bold, but not bully; be thoughtful, but not lazy; be humble, but not timid; be proud, but not arrogant; have humor, but without folly.”
-Jim Rohn

I think the biggest challenge a leader faces is, “Will things run just as smooth when I am not leading?” That has been my primary goal as a leader of the BoondockSaints. It takes real leadership to ask for help, delegate and recognize your shortcomings. I am lucky enough to have several people that step up when I am not there to lead a raid or to solve an issue.

The most important thing about making something work smoothly when you are not there, its to make sure that the group shares your vision. As a group of friends playing WoW our vision has been ever changing and right now it is going in various directions. People might think that the majority of the guild wanting to create horde characters to level was a challenge, but it has been nothing but fun. We were still able to run a raid the minute we wanted to do it, and it was just a matter of the people we needed switching to their alliance 80s. We raided a lot one week, then this week has been nothing but heroics and mount farming. I am sure next week it will be something else, but we all just pull together and do fun things in game.

I love the fact that we have done so much in such a short period of time. I could not do it without the support of my officers and the hard work they are putting into it all. I say 90% of us have bear mounts now, and a big group has the Timed CoS drake. So while being a leader is great, having good people around you to help you out makes it tons easier. I appreciate everyone, and lets keep on having fun!

Guild Meeting Notes

From our last Guild Meeting as typed by Moon :)

Guild Meeting Notes

Our guild had a great turn out for the guild meeting last week. We appreciate everyone that took the time to come to the meeting. Thank you for adding thought and ideas to better our guild and relationships.

We now have a face book group please join us if you can it is a great way to share info about guild, see everyone’s real face, post ideas, hints, tips, links to help every one and in game screen shots.

— Message Logtar (John Guzman) or Moondust (Ann Crouse Northrup) for an invite.

Last night we had our first Guild Help Day

We formed 2 raid groups

1 for high level miners
2 for high level herbalist.

We mined ore, gems, high level herbs , high level fish (fish feast) , skinned.
Farmed Regular TOC for epics disenchant for mats.

A couple people even used their honor points to buy the new high level gems for guild use.

We ended up with a bunch of soranite ore — for arrows, bullets, blacksmith,
Titanium prospected into gems, and titanium dust to use for jc patterns
Herbs used for potions
Skins used for Heavy borean Armor kits for guildies and to sell a few on AH for profit for the guild.
Fish used for fish feasts

Please share any ideas you have or thoughts about the Guild Help Day Event!

This will be a recurring event once a month for about an hour. Which is a pretty short amount of time to help give back to the guild for everyone’s benefit.

Guild Promotions

(Remember to be promoted you have to be at the Guild Meeting)

Sarimram (Sal) was promoted to Smecker after all of his work leading and helping other members in the guild

Thanks Sal – you have been a wonderful leader and helped sooo many people run raids as well as farm for mats, and help others level. Great job.


For all that they have done to help with the guild and they have blended In very nicely with our guild. We appreciate each of you and helping our guild to grow and work as a big family. – thank you

Gohd — thanks for being a nice new addition to our guild. We have enjoyed getting to know you and starting to run raids with you.

We had another very special Promotion last night after the Guild Help Day

Bluearcher — Blue joined us right as we formed the BoondockSaints.

Blue has helped with creating potions, helped farm for mats to dc and has always been very friendly and willing to run raids when we need dps or any other help. – Thanks Blue

In other Guild News!

We also started a New low level guild last night Strudelicious

This guild is simply a part of the bigger one so everyone is welcome to have a character in there. It was created because we have too many people wanting to contribute mats and we needed more bank space. Now we have room for our low level mats.
— Just ask in guild chat and we will get you invited.

***Remember we have a chat channel to use for our friends and especially when you are playing a character not in the main guild, like when you are playing your low levels, simply type /join saints

http://bds.logtar.com/ — please visit our guild website, and check out our new RAID SCHEDULE!

Thank you everyone for your time.

Logtar, Star and Moon

(typos by Moon)

Bear Brought To you By BoondockSaints

Achievements are a time sink that is lower in my list of priorities for WoW, which reminds me that I really need to go grind for some rep and get another flying mount. Achievements that give some kind of rewards are another story. I tried to put a raid together to go kill all the horde achievements, but more importantly that it grants you the reigns of [Reins of the Black War Bear].

The story begins a couple of weeks before. We’ve had a handful of guilds wanting to do run with us and had the chance to do Naxx 25 and OS 25 last week. Also some of them have been asking to merge, but we are not interested on dropping our name or having 1337 players that will tell our friends how much they need to improve. We have a couple of smaller guilds that are pretty much extended members and they provide us with whatever we need to fill groups. As far as mergers we were only interested on mature players that wanted to raid during the evenings and weekends. In our low population server this seemed almost impossible to accomplish, but we were not in a hurry. There was a guild that was recommended by one of our new members, so I started conversations with their GM two weeks ago. We set up events together to have most of them not available… they seemed interested but really could not seem make the effort. Most guilds seem to overstate their membership, and they told me they had 10 regular players but I never saw more than 5 online at once. I was not holding my breath, but it would have been very nice to fill the guild with players that would take us to being able to do a full 25 man with mostly BoondockSaints.

I have been leveling my priest. We really are goon on healers right now since our main healer is back from an extended vacation and we have added 4 new people that do an excellent job keeping our tanks alive. But I leveled Logtar extremely fast and did not get to enjoy the labor of love that is running things your level and working on your professions. I have been having fun healing BGs and old world dungeons with the priest.

This past weekend I had the best group in a long time. The pace was good, the people were funny and polite and we just had a blast in Sunken Temple. It made me remember the times when I grouped with Moon and Star back when we were all 40s. So after we finished the dungeons I asked if there was anyone over 20. Someone replied and told me they were over 30 but would not say how old. We stayed and chatted for a bit and what do you know… there was a small guild of people that were trying to do heroics, and they were all real life friends all over 30. Not just that, they were looking for a guild our size to come to. I did not get too excited, I discussed it with the officers as a just maybe type of deal. The following day some of them got to run with one of your heavy DPSers and we exchanged tells back and forth.

The next day I get a tell… hey, someone wants to ask you a couple of questions… I said sure. We chatted for a couple of minutes, and then, ok, we’re ready. We all want to come over… O.o

Seriously? Yeap, our guild merged just like that… the next day everyone was on vent and their personalities fit right in! So now with over 20 people on we said, hey lets do For The Alliance… and BAM, full raid in about 15 minutes.

We had attempted to kill Sylvanas Windrunner in The Undercity not too long ago, but we had maybe 15 people in the raid we knew and the 5 extra just did not push us over on DPS. We got her half way down and then THE HORDE showed up. I did not have high expectations because I have seen what happens when a horde town is attacked and how quickly they come and counter any attempt.

To my surprise though, the group did awesome and we not only pwned the Windrunner, we pwned the resistance that showed up at Undercity. We did so well that we headed to kill Lor’Themar Theron in Silvermoon City and got him even faster. People started talking about Ogrimar and my death alarm started going off, but I said what the heck… portals up, lets get it on.

This is when the heavy horde numbers started to show up, but we pushed through even as we got separated and had to do the fight with Warchief Thrall in Orgrimmar with almost half of the people from the raid on ghost form. This was at 9:00 P.M server time when most people in our server play. We struggled but we killed him… had a harder time getting out of Orgrimmar but prevailed. That is when we got a little too confident and when we showed up to kill Cairne Bloodhoof in Thunder Bluff we were outnumbered.

I was not sure about attempting to finish it the next day, but when we had almost 30 people in the guild on, and getting a couple of tells from the people that got on our raid the night before, I said sure. We slowly got a lock and a small group to the north of Thunderbluff, got everyone summoned and with only a handful of people besides the twenty some from our guild we killed eat more Tauren. We circled around and killed the Windrunner again since not everyone was on the night before, but were stomped in Orgrimar since we lacked the numbers we had the night before. Most people in our guild now have the Warbear, and now its just a matter of getting it for other alts. Its a neat achievement to complete because you truly need to be able to lead a raid of 40 which is like trying to get 40 monkeys to sit still.

That was tons of fun!
Ogrimar Down

Raiding – Am I Ready?

Raiding is one of the funnest things you can do in WoW. Coordinating a group of people to accomplish a goal is the most exciting and challenging thing about the game IMO. I get questions quite often about how to run a certain dungeon or when will I be ready to run a raid… so I wanted to write something that applies in a general level to people that want to get started in the raiding world.

As much fun as raiding can be, it can also be nightmarish and time consuming. Nobody likes to have a repair bill with nothing to show for week after week. Some people don’t mind doing the same content over and over, (check out my pug checker, I can do DTK every day and still love the place) but die enough times and it will grind a group to a halt. Lucky for us, our guild has been very relaxed and even though we have not advanced as much as some people might like, we still love the game and playing with each other which I think its the most important thing.

That said I wanted to be very honest about how involved raiding can be, and how the following are some of the things you seriously have to consider when you start raiding.

Every class in WoW has very specific intricacies that put together in a raid group lead to killing that freaking big dragon. While every class is extremely different in some respects and the level of customization in the game is the highest I have ever seen for a video game. All of that flexibility makes things complex enough that you can truly hurt yourself with your character build. But, when it comes right down to it, playing the World of Warcraft raiding does have some basic principles.


From the first time a whole raid was charred to a crisp fighting in Kara I learned the frustration that can dismantle a group after a wipe. Don’t move means serious, don’t move… no seriously, let go of the keys, don’t try to get that last spell out, don’t try to move a little bit to get a better angle view, just seriously don’t move. At the same time, RUN AWAY, means just that. So many elements of the game have to do with where you are, how far you need to be from something or other party members… don’t stand in black circles. Whenever you are not sure about an encounter, you need to ask and follow the directions of the experienced people.

Your CAP

The thing that will dictate a lot of what you do when it comes to raiding is your “CAP” which means that you have hit the maximum level for your more important stat. However, there is other caps along with that one. While a tank being 540 is very important so he does to get “crited” anymore, his hit rating and expertise are also crucial so he lands the hits and does not get dodged or parried. Once you know your goals, then you can start planning your gear shopping list


Loot at times feels like chicken and egg. Blizzard just made things a lot simpler and even though I was already playing a simpler game than original WoW raiders, this latest patch (3.2) equalized a ton. You have the Tournament of Champions, a place that you can get 10 man raid level gear with just 5 people. That and now all the badges put into two groups make it very stright forward to obtain new pieces of gear without relying on the luck of a drop and the chance at a /roll.

With LOOT though, you have to once again do more research. You need to know where the loot drops that you need. If you are still missing that amazing neck piece and your DPS is still towards the bottom of the list, you need to read up on where to get it. Gear will help you achieve tons, but it is only part of the equation.

The other important thing once you have the gear is to get it enchanted and gemmed.

The Build

So you have the gear, but your (DPS, Healing, Threat generation) still are lacking? The next thing to consider is your build. Your build simply put is the methodology you use when assigning your talent points, and also what glyphs you use.

The easy way is to look for someone’s build and copy it, however this is not the answer. You don’t know how that person plays. Some people have no problem using 5 or 6 abilities, some people use simply 3 or 4. That does not include cooldowns. I will caution you on your builds and glyphs to make sure you don’t spend valuable talent points or spots on your glyph slots that you just don’t use or use very little.

The Rotation

What buttons you press on what order is as important as everything else in the game. If I don’t hit one of my shouts or charge into our DPS and my rage will suffer. If I am DPSing and don’t hit my trinket that gives me extra attack power right before I hit one of my special abilities, I am not doing a good job. If a high DPS hunter does not misdirect on me when we start an encounter, their DPS might pull agro from me.

While your primary abilities are important, knowing what secondary abilities you need to use in what situation makes a huge difference in a raid. It also ensures that your DPS, Heals or tanking stays constant. It does not matter that you hit 4K DPS once, if you cannot maintain it over the course of a run.

How do I know when I am ready then?

The baby step for almost everyone is to join a guild that raids, casual raiders will probably be more patient than people that are doing the hardest content and consider themselves hardcore. If the guild has people that know the class you want to play and are willing to share their knowledge you have struck gold. Keep in mind that they will be able to steer you in the right direction. They can only open the door, you have to actually go through and learn the theory behind things.

That said, there are tons of ways to “cheat” to acquire the knowledge above about your character.

There are several add ons that will tell you where the gear is “hidden” all over WoW. Also there are gear evaluation add ons, and a new nifty interface built right into WoW itself that will compare the gear you want with what you have currently on your character.

The internet is full of resources, class specific blogs and “evaluators.”

So if you want a straight answer, Imba can tell you where you are ready to go based on your gear (check out the Gear-O-Meter at the bottom), and WoW Popular will tell you what is the most popular currently. But you cannot replace everything with shortcuts, and if you want to raid, you need to do your homework and practice.

Feel free to post the resources you use in the comments :)